Yes, Grok-4 is powerful. But do not lose your mind over Elon’s hypemachine. To anyone who doesn’t know where to look for reliable informationon AI models, AI Explained on Youtube is the only AI channel I actually trust to be decently objective. He goes through the ups and downs. I won’t be using t…

Yeah, and the heavy model is not affordable to most.

grok is the best model right now if your not going to use it your missing sure elons character isn’t the best but we should take advantage of the very powerful model he gave us

He isn’t giving it though, he’s selling it. The money goes to him, that’s all. I won’t argue with anyone here to not use it. Not worth my energy, but I figure it is worth my energy to hamper any hype with actual realistic expectations. That’s all.

[image] i agree its not perfect XD

It uses 3x thinking tokens, so it is much more expensive. Only Opus 4 is a bit more expensive. Do not count the token price. The cost difference can be 10x based on the number of thinking tokens used.

[image] Jaeder: I won’t be using the model myself due to Elon’s character, That’s profound ethics I respect. To counter-balance other messages in this thread, I totally align with your vision. The future world we will live in is what we shape today with our choices and spending.

I have an app requirements document I use to check out all the models. I did manage to get Grok 4 to produce a solution proposal before the performance dropped off a cliff, but it wasn’t as good as Gemini 2.5’s and wasn’t even on the same planet as Claude 4’s. I sense Elon has over hyped his model,…

Fully agree. I have been switching between Gemini 2.5 pro and Grok 4 a lot today (Because rate limit hit for sonnet 4.0), and lets ignore it is slow as fck - I don’t see it that great results from it tbh.

My one-shot post has become constantly updated review. You might also be interested. [image] (Continuously Updated) My Real-Time Review of Grok 4 Discussions I’ve been trying to develop a CAT tool for personal use for almost a week now. I wrote an incremental integration …

Looks awesome. I’ll be definitely trying and using Grok-4 as a model in Cursor :slight_smile:

Be realistic with Grok-4

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My one-shot post has become constantly updated review. You might also be interested.

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