How not to be a Cringe Coder and one day move out of your mom's basement

Listen up, all you basement-dwelling, wannabe vibe coders. You keep coming to the forums only to whine about Cursor’s updates and the evolving nature of LLMs, acting like the world owes you a bug-free, idiot-proof coding experience. Newsflash! when you hit that update button or switch to a new LLM, you’re rolling the dice. Stuff changes, and sometimes it breaks. Many times it breaks. Just like with vibe coding. That’s the game!​

But instead of stepping up and figuring things out, you come crawling to the forums, complaining about how “terrible” everything is. You blame the tools, the developers, the universe—everyone but your lazy, unskilled selves. You’re the epitome of “Cringe Coders”: clueless, entitled, and unwilling to put in the work. *Oh, this tool is terrible, I’m canceling my subscription… take that!*​

You drop 20 bucks a month on a tool that is worth ten, twenty, a hundred times that, yet you act like it’s highway robbery. Meanwhile, real developers are out there earning salaries that would make your mom’s basement look like the dump it is. But sure, keep crying about your precious allowance.​

Here’s a thought: instead of complaining, maybe invest some time in actually learning how vibe coding works. Understand the risks of updates, adapt to changes, and stop expecting the world to cater to your incompetence. Until then, enjoy your pity party. The rest of us will be over here, actually getting things done.​

Some advice, slow down and pay attention. Look, I get it. New tools like Cursor and the latest LLMs are shiny as heck, and you want to dive in headfirst. But maybe, just maybe, pump the brakes a bit. Take the time to actually learn the fundamentals before you start blaming the tools for your mistakes. Mastering the basics isn’t just for newbies; it’s what separates the pros from the whiny little complainers.​

Mitigate Your Risks. Every time you update Cursor or switch to a new LLM, you’re taking a gamble. Instead of crying when things go south, how about you prepare for it? Back up your work, read the patch notes, and test things out before going all in. Being a developer means managing risks, not throwing tantrums when your lack of foresight bites you in the rear.​

Embrace the Grind. Coding isn’t about finding the easy way out; it’s about embracing the grind and continuously learning. If you’re not willing to put in the effort to understand the tools you’re using, maybe this isn’t the field for you. Stop looking for shortcuts and start building a solid foundation. That’s how you stop being a Cringe Coder and start being a real developer, even if you are vibe coding your way through a project.​

If your current setup is working just fine, don’t be so quick to jump on the latest update or switch to a new LLM. Not every shiny new feature is worth the potential headaches. Stick with what works until you have a darn good reason to change it.​

Keep your ear to the ground. Know what’s coming down the pipeline so you’re not blindsided by changes. Being proactive beats being reactive any day.​

So, to all the Cringe Coders out there: grow up, take responsibility, and do the work. The rest of us are tired of your nonsense.

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I’m new to this world, but I cannot agree more. It’s imperative in any professional area: learn the fundamentals. The tools should be treated as what it is: tools.

Greetings, bro.

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Wow, what a breath of fresh air. I have been absolutely amazed by the demeanor of people on this forum and the things they say. I know that Cursor isn’t a magic bullet that writes perfect code every time, but it has increased velocity for me significantly. Instead of iterating on little bugs and syntax problems I can focus on things at a higher level. It’s a completely new mindset when coding.

I see a lot of my coworkers and peers dumping on tools like Cursor as well just because they expect it to be perfect 100% of the time and when it isn’t, they throw their hands up and say that it’s junk. The thing to keep in mind is that LLMs have added an incredible amount of entropy into the software ecosystem. As more tools and systems get built that are backed by LLMs, the entropy will continue to increase.

The reality is that tools like Cursor are incredible, but imperfect and unpredictable. This is a whole new world we are entering into and the ones who will still be getting paid to write code in the coming years are going to be the ones who adapt. Cursor is on the bleeding edge of this new frontier, and as someone who has built LLM powered apps I know that they are doing an excellent job staying on that bleeding edge.

It really has just boggled my mind how negative people are on here and how high their expectations of the tool are. They say things like “I’m going to use windsurf now” like the Cursor team is going to jump in and kiss their ■■■ and beg them not to go. It’s just been shocking to think that so many of my peers are like this, but then your post has made me realize that they aren’t my peers. They are people who are too lazy to actually learn the tools they are working with and hence have no grounding in what is actually possible with the current technology. Probably people who have never been paid to write code in their life and they think that these tools are going to somehow give them and advantage over others, and when that doesn’t happen they flail and cry like children. It truly has been shocking to me seeing the discussions that take place on this forum. I guess most of us that are actually building things and embracing these tools(warts and all) aren’t wasting their time in such a cesspool of negativity and blame casting.

I hope that some of these people read your post and it helps them reflect, because there is so much opportunity in this industry for those willing to do what it takes, but sadly I don’t think any of them will.

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“I’m using the free version of Cursor, and its indexed chat feature and inline chat (Ctrl+K) are both exceptionally refined. The code insertion and alignment markers are particularly well-executed.”

Loved the post :grin:
at my age, coming from typewriter era, AI powered IDE, is nothing less than magic for me. Just thinking about it, gets me out of bed, or I turn off the TV in the middle of a movie and rush to my computer to interact with this thing.

For this money, I can get one decent meal, but I will spare my money to pay for this as much as I can. the cost doesn’t matter.

I was never a good coder, but never gave up either, and using this tool has opened my eyes to development in a whole new way.

Even I feel that this is going to pass as well, and everything in the context of AI will evolve fast, but I enjoy this ride, with all its “shortcomings”, which are not shortcomings at all.

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