Has anyone worked out what "Opt Out (Legacy?) Pro" mode pricing now means?

A few days back, Claude 4 was 0.5 requests, (or 0.8 for thinking) - then all kinds of things changed, which I “Reverted” with the “Opt Out option” in settings on the web site.

I now only see “-” under all my usage details where it used to say “1” or “0.8” etc, and I notice that my remaining requests went down by 23 after I only made 14 (2 x 3.5 and 12 x 4.0-thinking, plus one errored)…

What does the new plan even mean (if I had not done “Opt Out”), and how do we know our usage, the costs for it, and our limits?

I also notice it says 120k token context for Claude - but those models have 200k - anyone know what’s going on with that?

You, my friend, have a lot to catch up on.

Old “legacy” plan means the good old pricing you’ve been using so far. With new updated requests pricing for Sonnet 4, since the discount is over. Now it’s 2 requests.

You still won’t see the amount of requests you’ve spend for each request, but you do have a counter.

As for the new plan, I’d suggest to start with the blog announcement, then the new docs chapter on rate limits, then a few of popular threads here on the forum.

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Thanks @gustojs … no idea how I missed the docs chapter announcement, but I think I now finally “Get it”. On the old plan, when we hit 500, things got “slowed down”. On the new plan, there’s 2 limits (burst+local) instead of one, and it’s based on what we cost them, not just “per usage”, and instead of being slowed when we hit either of those, we get blocked (only way forwards is payment, or perhaps wait 2 hours, or downgrade to a lesser/cheaper model).
I was wondering why they’d even have keep a “legacy” idea if the new one is supposedly so good… maybe that’s why - their now-invisible rate limits must be worse-off for some people?
I guess time will tell for me - I’ve hit no limits at all recently, so I don’t know the impact.

Update: These 5 clicks used up 27 requests:-
Jun 23, 04:11 PM You Included in Pro No claude-4-sonnet-thinking
Jun 23, 03:55 PM You Included in Pro No claude-4-sonnet-thinking
Jun 23, 03:53 PM You Included in Pro No claude-4-sonnet-thinking
Jun 23, 03:27 PM You Included in Pro No claude-4-sonnet-thinking
Jun 23, 03:18 PM You Included in Pro No claude-4-sonnet

so I think their “Opt Out” is not actually going back to the old way of doing things. I think it might be counting requests using the new rate-limit computations (based on their cost), and not really staying on the old plan.

Same feeling

I use mostly Gemini 2.5 pro (on old plan), on medium to high context length (no MAX mode), and I didn’t encounter this behavior yet. However it is possible.

There definitely were issues with counting the requests for those who used new plan before opting out to old plan.

I made absolutely sure to wait with making any requests until I was able to switch to old plan (back then there was no button yet), just for the sake of any potential problems.

If YOU ARE right about it, then it would be a big problem. But still, nothing I wouldn’t expect from Cursor nowadays, sadly, given the general lack of transparency. :frowning:

Im seeing relatively same cost on usage based pricing on legacy plan.

Sure Claude 4 Sonnet regular is 1 request and Thinking is 2 requests.

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@Aura based on what would you say is your feeling that legacy is not same as it was?

Seems to have started working OK, kindof.
37 “claude-4-sonnet-thinking” used up 76 requests - near enough.
It says I’ve used “218/500” requests… except I’m about 12hrs past my “anniversary moment”, so I would have expected “0/500” right now? I wonder if their change messed up some of our dates?

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This is worrying, and the messed up dates theory sounds plausible.